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In Episode 72 of Grapes & Debates, SoNapa Grille owners Adam Barringer, Chris Botting, and Joe Bates welcome special guest Ray Shaefer, founder of Gravity Architecture + Design and the creative mind behind the design of both SoNapa Grille locations in Ormond Beach and Jacksonville Beach.

Over glasses of Faust Cabernet Sauvignon from Napa Valley, the group dives into Ray’s fascinating background as an architect, his transition into hospitality design, and the vision behind creating warm, inviting restaurant spaces that capture the spirit of Napa and Sonoma wine country.

Ray also shares behind-the-scenes stories about some of his most memorable projects and clients — including his unique experience working with Lisa Marie Presley. From global design projects to the intimate details of restaurant layouts, this episode blends wine, design, and storytelling in true Grapes & Debates fashion.

Finally, the group debates a timeless question: What matters more in a restaurant experience — the wine in your glass, or the space that surrounds you?